So, we had our follow up appointment with Dr V yesterday. To say that it wasn’t what I expected is an understatement of note.
Well then, what did I expect? I expected that Dr V answered all my questions that I had, which he did. I expected to make plans for future treatment and come away with a clear idea of what that treatment was going to be….
Dr V says the my uterus/pelvic area is perfect. My ovaries are perfect with no damage what-so-ever, my pelvis area where the endo from my last op’s has healed incredibly well. The spot that Dr V did remove and sent for biospy came back as nothing ie, not endo so he’s happy! Basically Dr V came back saying that I shouldn’t be there because:
- My uterus/pelvis is perfect
- I have perfect cycles
- We have an excellent stim reponse
- We have an excellent fert rate
- We had 7 blasts on day 5 with our last IVF, 3 fo which were transfer quality, according to Dr V, that is excellend for someone my age.
- Franks sperm is perfect
- Our HLA study and chromosome tests came back perfect, no problems at all so IVIg is not an option
So then what is the problem? Dr V says that I should be able to conceive on my own, he says that intralipids might do the trick since there might be a NKC (natural killer cell) issue, he says the GIFT and ZIFT are not an option for us because we aren’t good candidates for it. IVF with intralipids and injectable progesterone and estrogen support might do the trick but he’s not convinced. So basically we’re still in the unexplained infertility category here, not a nice place to be by any stretch of the imagination. So then, dear readers, you may ask…what is the solution?
It all seemed to be going well, I asked Dr V about trying on our own and he said go for it but that if I haven’t conceived by Dec then I should consider going on the pill – fair enough. He said tha he was willing to do another few rounds of medicated IUI’s if that’s what I wanted (since there isn’t really a need for IVF but it’s the most advanced and it does give us a better chance) but that IUI with intralipids has never been done since they aren’t sure when to give you the intralipid and that continueous use of intralipids (month after month) could be bad for you so they would only administer the intralipids once a pregnacy was acheived through IUI – that’s not going to help since our issues are around implantation so there goes that idea.
Dr V went on to say that he has a similar case to mine, basically they have no clue what’s happening here, they’ve tested all that they can test, fixed all that can be fixed and now the only thing they can medically think of is changing the womb. So Frank and I are sitting there and we must obviously be (even after all this time) so naive because we both said, “well, how do you do that?” – I thought…here we go again, another op. Yes, No…not that easy people!
Dr V looked at us and said…”A surrogate”
Well blow me down with a feather. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think that this would be an option for us and even as I sit here and type this, it all feels like some sick joke, a bad bad dream. You know what it’s like, when travelling this road….you and your respective other talk about things like this (well we have) and I have in the past told Frank that should I have the choice between never having a baby or having someone else carry my child, I would use a surrogate but it’s one thing saying that it’s an option, it’s another thing being told that it’s reality.
It blows my mind. I wasn’t sure what to say or how to react, Frank sat there looking at me. My first reaction was, Oh my fucking word…this isn’t happening and I am still very surprised that I never burst into tears right there and then. Instead, I said…”well, we’ve spoken about this before but I never thought we would need it, it’s quite a thing to get your head around and I really would like to carry my own baby”
Dr V went on to tell me about a case that is very similar to mine. Everything is perfect, they did a few IVF cycles with perfect blasts/embryo’s with no hint of a pregnancy, with their last IVF with intralips they put two embryo’s back into the mother and two into a surrogate, the surrogate is pregnant with twins and the mother didn’t even get a positive pregnancy test. ‘
Okay, so I’m in denial here and I say, “/okay so we’ll do a IVF cycle with intralipids and then if that doesn’t work we’ll go from there?” Dr V says “why don’t you consider using a surrogate back-up, we put two in you and two in her, I know it’s a lot to process but think about it, it’s your choice?” He goes on to tell us that using someone we know will help keep the costs down but that they would have to be screened. We leave there with Dr V telling us to think about it and let him know when we’ve decided and we’re ready. I’m numb, it doesn’t feel real.
Frank and I go and have a cup of coffee, we chat about it and I get tearful, Frank says it’s my decision because I’m the one that’s always wanted to be pregnant, it’s never been about just having a baby for me, it’s about carrying it, bonding with it and feeling it grow and move inside me. I tell him that I have to get to work and since we’re in seperate cars we go our seperate ways. I sob all the way to work, I feel so empty and scared and I can’t believe what’s just happened.
I get to work, sit down and my desk and cry some more, my telephone rings and it’s my sister. She’s sobbing. My uncle (my dad’s youngest brother of 47) has just passed away. I tell her I’m coming to fetch her and I do. We go to the hospital, I cannot go in and see his body (he went in for nuemonia and just couldn’t recover), my aunt comes out and my heart breaks for her. They never had children, they couldn’t and he was too stubborn to get tested. She tells me that she doesn’t want to live without him and that he’s all she had, I cry because I can’t imagine losing my husband, I cry for her because she’s all alone and everything she’s ever known is now gone. I cry and my heart aches, I don’t know whether I’m grieving for Frank and I or her, I think it’s a bit of both and none of this seems fair.
I cried so much yesterday and today it all feels very surreal. I woke up this morning from a good sleep only to realise that nothing has changed. I can’t really talk about it and Frank and I haven’t spoken about it again, he says that we don’t need to decide now, everyone says that and I know it’s true, I need to wait and let the answers come to me but it’s like a black cloud and my heart feels so heavy. It was my birthday this week and it was wonderful compared to the uncertainty and pain of last year, I was finally feeling like I was in a good place and then this. I’m so tired of it all. We have a birthday bash planned with 18 of our nearest and dearest which we decided not to cancel, it felt weird because I have nothing to celebrate but Frank thought it was important for me to get out and I’m glad that we did. Here’s some pics, it’s amazing how a smile can make you look like you’re not dying inside….

And to Robbie, may you rest in peace. You will live forever in my heart…

So sorry to hear of all the heartache Tam, seems like when it rains it pours. Must be really difficult to have Dr.V verbalise the surrogacy option, makes it so real.
Hope the heart heals and you find some comfort.
Thinking of you and wishing I was there last night!
Oh my dearest Tam, I’m so sorry about all the loss going on in your life right now. Take some time to consider all your options and know that at least there are options and that your dreams are not gone… I have to put this out there, but given my newfound fertility (still a bit strange to say), but if I weren’t so far away from you physically, I would be the first to line up to be your surrogate! What I wouldn’t do for you to find happiness and motherhood!!!
So sorry about your uncle and the startling conversation with Dr. V. It’s so much to handle…
You don’t need to decide anything right now.
Take care.
Oh Tam, what a day. I’m so very sorry about your uncle’s passing, he was so young. And about this latest development in your quest for parenthood. Its alot to take in I’m sure. Take your time, but like Anna, I mean it when I say I’ll do anything to help you get your little one. Not sure if it would even be possible given the distance between us, but if it is, I’d love to be there for you. lots of love always x
Thank you for inviting us to your birthday “celebration” Tam! I’m so sorry for the pain you have to go through. It all seems so horribley unfair. You are going to make such a wonderful Mommy to someone & if I weren’t so old/f*cked up myself, I’d offer to carry this baby for you. You have choices & decisions to make so take your time and think through them all carefully. When the time is right, I have someone I’d like to introduce you too.
Very sorry for your families loss on top of everything else!
(((hugs)))
Tam, you are such a light in this world, I feel so priveledged to be your friend.
My heart aches for you my friend, BUT know this – you WILL be a mommy, a wonderful one! I know this. If you need to chat/vent/cry whatever my shouder is always available.
This is a huge decision to make, but let your heart guide you.
(Condolences to you all for the passing of your dear uncle.)
xxx
Agh it is always such a shock when the next level is suggested to us. It’s so hard to process and make decesions. I too am struggling with that, it’s yet another “loss” we have to mourn. Good Luck, I pray that your heart and mind will both tell you what is right for you so that you can have your baby.
So sorry to hear of the passing of your uncle!
Im so sorry, Tam..what a day of tears. A lot to process in what must have felt like a very long drawn out day. I pray for peace for your family in regards to the passing of your uncle…
I am sending you prayers of serenity as you mull over the news from Dr. V. I know part of this journey to be a mom involves the pregnancy aspect and if you are connected to carrying your child. Wish I had more words of wisdom, but please know Im thinking of you…
holy shit tam, i am shocked too! i mean even leaving aside losing your uncle for a moment, that is just crazy to go from ‘everything is perfect’ to ‘you need a surrogate,’ i didn’t see it coming either and would be feeling so mixed up about it too. oh how i wish there was some way to see what was happening in there, find a problem, and fix it. damn!!
and then to lose your uncle at the same time, and be faced with the emptiness you see in your aunt…it really is just way too much for one day. for one year! i wish you luck in finding those answers…
Hi there Tam, sorry to invade in your blog. I just came to stumble on it when I googled “Lucrin side effects” Just wanted to tell you that I was close to tears reading ur blog. I know exactly how you feel because I’m currently going through the same situation. Just like you I mariied the love of my life we have been trying for a child for close to 3 years. Im 35 years. I have been through 2 ops to remove my endometrsis. On the second op unfortunately I had my left ovary removed becuase it was overwhelmed by a cyst. Im currently staring my IVF cycles.
The part where u said that u didnt wanna go out for ur birthday I could fully undersatnd because this April I felt exactly like u, but my husband dragged me out and tried to cheer up the situation by inviting some freinds. Thank you for sharing ur heart with others.
Wow. I can’t imagine what that day must have felt like. I wish I could give you a giant hug and distract you with dumb jokes, not that they would make any of it better.
One thing to ask your doctor about – rheumatoid arthritis medication. I have the natural killer cell issue, and apparently that may be a treatment for it. The only reason we didn’t try is because we couldn’t afford both treatment and adoption at that point, and so chose adoption, but am still curious if it’s true.
Ai, my dear sweet friend, what can I say to make it better? When we heard Dr V say we may need a donor, I just about died inside. It took a very long time to get used to the idea. When you marry your soulmate the last thing you ever think of is HOW you going to make a baby, you just expect that it will happen. I want a baby so incredibly badly that we have decided that we will do whatever it takes, at the end of the day I dont care who the baby looks like or what womb he was grown in, I just want a baby to call my own, raise, look after, nurture, teach and be a mom to. When I read your post I actually got butterflies in my tummy when you said that the surrogate got pregnant with twins – that could be YOU!!!! There are so many ways to make a family, I literally cannot wait for you to be a mommy, you will be FANTASTIC! Please, please think about this, I cant tell you how excited I am that this might be your solution. It doesnt matter HOW it happens, you have options and that is the most important!
Im so sorry to hear about your uncle, as you know I lost my uncle in April and it was devastating. The sadness in your heart with fade but your memories never will.
MUCH LOVE xxx
i wish i knew what to say… it must be so hard to know what to do especially when you have longed so much for a pregnancy not just the baby. Hugs Tam, i hope you and Frank are able to decided whats best for you
xxx
Wow Tam! That is a lot to take in. I have no words.